I threw one of these on my 4" cordless grinder and went after the rust on my dad's gate, it whipped that rust off in no time leaving me with nice clean bare metal. I have plans to use this on my truck along the wheel well where the paint is starting to bubble from rust. I have every confidence this will take off the paint and underlying rust, without removing good metal. I love these over flap discs for just that reason. When working on thin metal like cars, you need to keep as much good steel as possible and just strip off the paint and rust. This 4 pack should last me quite a long time.